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Gee, with all these superlatives floating around, maybe i should jack the price up?[Not] :neener:


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Hi there,

I got really excited last days. Found a 907 from 1993 and will make a test drive next tuesday. According to the owner it ran only 15000 km, but you are never sure. Are there some special (weak) points on a 907 that deserve special attention? Because the price is relatively high I would like to check for flaws.

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Hi sjors,
the 907 is the more reliable Paso, is a "modern" bike (17" rims, 320 mm. front rotors, etc.) and don't have any particular weak.
The electrics could be better and might to have some trouble but, if you test the bike and it works smoothly (above all at the cold start, because there can show a battery and so a charge weakness), you can buy it no qualms.
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mrinfux,
Have three comments to make on your above post.
First, agree that tastefull upgrades will increace value. Internal "hopup mods" generally will decrease value.
Second, would be very interested as to how you can determine genuine sale price of a machine. Example, Just sold my 907, which by the way was as close to concourse as any bike with minimal mileage[6500 miles] could be. You may know my initial asking price, but that as with most bikes, cars, planes, boats Etc in not necessarily the actual sale price. To the very best of my knowledge there are only a very few close associates of mine and the buyer who know what transpired. So think your "records" are majorly flawed.
Third, if you find this maybe mythical 0 mile 907 and are willing to pay between 10 and 20 thou for it, you are only re-inforceing P T Barnums famous saying.
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qldman36,

It sounds like the 907 you recently sold is a beautiful bike! Low miles, yes; but, "as close to concourse as any bike with minimal mileage [6500 miles] could be," no. A concourse car or motorcycle, by definition, can't have low or minimal milage. A concourse vehicle has no milage on the odometer above that put on by the manufacturer during the assembly and testing process, (typically less than one mile). A concourse vehicle must be completely original. Resoration is not allowed. That's what it means to be a concourse car or bike. If you ever get a chance, go to a concourse show. It's really something. I've been to concourse shows for Corvettes. Brand new 35 and 40 year old Corvettes, zero miles on the odometer, the MSRP sticker still on the window. The cars are rolled onto the show floor with terri cloth covers on the tires so as to not disturb the rubber nubs on the tires. So, while 6,500 miles is super low milage for a 907, (all three of mine have significantly more!), it has nothing to do with a concourse bike.

As for me knowing what 907s have sold for around the world, it's not so hard. E-bay posts the selling price. When the buyer doesn't pay, the seller typically re-posts, so the bike is re-auctioned and I only consider the price that was actually paid rather than the winning bid. As for classified ads and dealerships, I contact the seller, (and sometimes the buyer), and ask them what the bike sold for. Most people are happy to tell me. Obviously, people can lie, and my data is not, statistically speaking, a controlled sample. I did not employ the "scientific method" when compiling my data. But, having bought three 907s in the last 2 years and having followed the sale of many others, I don't think my records are "majorly flawed". I'm curious, do you think most 907s sell for significantly more or less than the 4 to 5 thousand dollar range I quoted?

Ultimately, a thing is only worth what somebody is willing to pay for it. No more; no less. That's why I think it's difficult to value a concourse 907. Somebody with a lot of money and desire might be willing to pay substantially more than other interested buyers in order to own a unique 907. Have you ever watched car auctions for classic concourse cars? Prices in excess of a half million dollars are not uncommon. Does paying 10 or 20 or even 30 thousand dollars for a concourse 907 make a person a "sucker"? I don't know. Perhaps. At this point it's all academic because I know of no such concourse 907. Do you know of one?


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