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Another bad starter!!!
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Author:  f1steveuk [ Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:40 am ]
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Ok, this is probably as easy as I think it is, but.........

Got home to France, Started the Paso, first time, lovely. Fitted the brake pads I got in the UK, no problem, didn't even take the calipers of, just swore a lot!

Went to start her, nothing!!! Charged battery. Went to start her, nothing! All I am getting in a click from under the seat, which logis tells me is a stater solenoid (but a distance away from the starter). Push the button, click. Is this thing the solenoid, can it be taken apart or tricked, or do I need a new one, or what!!!!??? My brain says "buy a new one" but I want to ride it NOW!!!!!!!!

Thanks in advance
Author:  Skins [ Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:05 pm ]
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Author:  f1steveuk [ Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:30 am ]
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I have been from one end to the other checking the tightness of all the connections, especially as it's such a long cable from solenoid/relay to starter, and nothing seems to be amiss. I'm stumped because when I took the dust cover off after three weeks, she fired. Then when I did the pads, the battery didn't have enough, so I suspect a drain somewhere, then a laboured turn over, charged, and now zip!!

Is there a seperate fuse from the three under the seat? Could something have over heated? Do these starters have a habit of jamming? It's bloody frustrating, it's 84 outside and sunny!!!! :sad:
Author:  Skins [ Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:29 am ]
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:cool:

Sorry, Steve, I'm not much good with electrics. All I can say is, I had similar problems, but I did Jon Slocum's wiring upgrade by fitting relays in the ignition circuit (which cost very little, using two Bosch relays, a few feet of wire, and a few connectors) and that fixed it.
Author:  desmodave [ Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:32 am ]
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Author:  f1steveuk [ Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:07 pm ]
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The plot thickens!!!

I looked at the starter, and found one of the screws (the only one visible) has been in and out a few times, it won't do up tight, so the starter may well have been off a few times. Once the screw was out I tapped the starter (old BMC mini starter styly!) and bugger me it tried to turn, but very laboured. So I suspect the starter may be knackered, but it does seem strange "just" to go like that. So now the next question, how hard is it to change the starter?? Looks to me like, drain the stat housing and remove the whole side crank cover to find the other two screws?? Not the work of five minutes I suspect? The starter is a Denso, which is Japanese which seems strange although I know Laverda and Bimota used Jap electrics to cure some reliabilty problems.

I very grateful for your help chaps, but very peed off that I'm not riding it! Why is it these happen when you have your jacket, gloves, boots and helmet on, garage door open and then, FUT!!!!
Author:  ducapaso [ Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:53 pm ]
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I had the same eact trouble in my dukess!
You sould test the voltage in all the 4 connecions of the solenoid...
This operation told me the trouble wasn't there... The sound "klik" wasn't enough to make it work properly!
If there's a rost trouble somewhere you'll need a multimeter to find it :thumbup:
Have a nice work,
Nicola
Author:  f1steveuk [ Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:43 pm ]
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Author:  ducapaso [ Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:43 pm ]
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Author:  decesaro [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:05 pm ]
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My starter to wont turn ,I tryed everthing you did and today I went ahead and pulled the cover and sleeve off and I found one of the magnets can loose from the can and was jamming the armature . Im going to clean everythng up tonight at work and try to adhere it back to the can , it seems to look like they used some kind of epoxy to mount them in place . Just thought Id share that with you .


Does anybody know were I can get a set of brushes for the starter since I have it apart anyway ? Will this be something that I can get from a duc dealer without waiting months for ?
Author:  Skins [ Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:38 am ]
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:thumbup:

Just get a small set of brushes that are a little too big from an auto electrical shop, and carve them down to fit. That's what I did.
Author:  decesaro [ Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:58 am ]
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Author:  ducapaso [ Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:41 am ]
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